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Former Union Minister Smriti Irani sat with Rishabh Gulati, Editor-In-Chief, NewsX during the NXT Conclave held at the Bharat Mandapam in New Delhi on February 28.
Smriti Irani: Technology has created certain schisms
While speaking about AI at the event, Smriti Irani shed light on what does ‘I’ mean for gender saying, “I think one of the greatest fallacies that have been sold is that technology is agnostic to bias. As AI grows, one recognizes, realizes, and many people monetize the fact that technology has created certain schisms, certain gaps which have become opportunities for many those who have lived as thought leaders or as policy makers dedicated to equity. Their decadal presumption was that equality will be assured. That is still a challenge when you talk about the age, let’s say, of AI, many people compute how much it will add to a nation’s GDP.”
The former Union Minister continued, “Not much psychological computation has been done as to how it will affect the psychology of consumerism, and from a gender perspective, if you look at global research, you will find that of everything that women earn, close to 80 to 90% of their own earnings goes into the health and education of their own families. Now, as technology enables consumerism, you will find today, the research says 72% of purchasing decisions are affected by algorithms. One would presume that that algorithm would deepen your engagement as a woman on spans of education and health, because you are genetically predisposed to it. But what happens is that technology and the Journal of Psychology especially says that women, through algorithms, get 22% more spending on perishable consumables and at 30% less likely to get algorithmically driven data sets or content, which encourages them to invest.”
Smriti Irani mentions study done at Berkeley by Genevieve Smith
Smriti Irani at the NXT Conclave stated, “There is a presumption. It’s a presumption media. But but it is not. Obviously it isn’t. In fact, at Berkeley has there was a small research done by a lady called Genevieve Smith. They did a study across 133 AI systems, and they found that there was a gender bias in 44% of those systems. Now, why this research came about also is very unique.”
She continued, “Genevieve Smith, along with her husband, applied for a credit card in the US. She had the same money in the bank. They in fact had a joint account. Her credit score was better than the husband’s, and her tax returns were as transparent as the husband’s. She got credit 10% less than the husband, not 20% less. That drove her to start studying the technological effects of how women enhance, or how the credit worthiness of women decreases over a period of time. So when this happened to her, her husband was very outraged and he went on Twitter and he said, this is happening to people. And I think very, very, this is a comedy of errors because he was in the field of technology helping code web based applications. So he did a call out on Twitter to say, this has happened to our family. Steve was Nick, I believe, who was, I think party to one of the first, devices or applications. But she went and responded and said, guess what? This happened to my wife also. So these are men of economic accomplishments. Talking about their partners equally are more so economically empowered. Don’t care about how the algorithm, instead of acknowledging that emancipated woman is decreasing her credit worthiness.”
Smriti Irani: 80% of facial recognition systems are based on white skin
Shedding light on AI, Smriti Irani at the conclave asserted, “They use a male body or the dynamics of a male body on an AI system. They do not look at anticipate a female driving and the impact on a female body. They do not anticipate a pregnant woman driving. And research now has showed that in the same scenario, because women at the secure testing drive phase itself are missing as a consideration in research, 44% women are more likely to be injured in the same kind of accident that a man may have, and 17% more are likely to die as compared to men.”
Smriti Irani added, “If it perpetuates bias, I mentioned left hand right, and you ask an AI imaging tool to come up with an image of a left hand person writing, they can’t, because it is such a bias that all the images they’re trained on are right handed. So when, there can be a racial bias when it comes to the data scraping that you’re doing, we’ve seen that in facial recognition systems, 80% of them are based on either a white skin or a male even, fingerprint scanners.”
Smriti Irani talks about the greatest tragedies on the issue of gender
When asked, “Can you imagine the economic loss to that community, that system, on those two verticals of spend? To this Smriti Irani stated, “I think one of the greatest tragedies which has happened on the issue of gender, is that we’ve always had a rights based conversation on it. If there was an equal amount of conversation on the economic impact of not ensuring equity, we would have not seen the kind of bias which right now is hidden in a lot of rhetoric.”
She added, “But we would have not seen it if we had made an evidence based economic case for it, maybe a decade, decade and a half ago. Okay, so huge amount of effort is now being made to reach the goal of artificial general intelligence, and we are going to be devoting hundreds of billions of dollars in the compute in the hardware to get this done.”
About NXT Conclave:
As nations navigate complex economic landscapes, rapid technological advancements, and the urgency of sustainability, NXT Conclave 2025 served as a catalyst for action. Designed to accelerate innovation, influence global policymaking, and foster strategic collaborations, NXT will play a defining role in shaping the future of industries, economies, and societies.
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With exclusive leadership roundtables, NXT brought together the brightest minds to forge partnerships that drive sustainable growth, technological advancement, and geopolitical stability.
The inaugural NXT Conclave 2025 brought together some of the most influential global leaders, with Hon’ble Prime Minister of India, Shri Narendra Modi as the Chief Guest, reaffirming India’s leadership in global governance and innovation.
